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Old 02-12-2012, 11:48 PM #701
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www.sparkpeople.com is the site that helps you track your food intake and has many tools to help you with your goals. There is also a fitness tracker.
Mine still has all of my favorited foods from 2010.
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Alright !!!

Thank so much for all the help my friends !!!

Im starting RIGHT NOW.

Like Bizi said, wish me luck too !!

And Bizi, good luck !!! Im sure you will do great !!!
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:You-Rock We are all behind you. eat that apple too! ginnie
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Good luck to you both.


Also to me. Today at my doctor's office, I weighed 214.5 lbs.

Last time I weighed 218lbs. Wow, it was not much time ago.

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Bizi, good luck on your relaunch of your low carb diet program.

Blue and Donna, whatever type of diet/exercise interventions you decide on, good luck to you both on the weight maintenance/loss.

i made a new carrot recipe that i will share when i am more up to it, that you might enjoy.

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Dear Bizi,

i wonder do you have a source you could point me to that explains the bit about subtracting fiber grams from carb grams?

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When counting carbs, look at your labels they will tell you how many carbs per serving, you get to subtract the fiber carbs from that number.
i am aware fiber absorbs some fat, which then gets eliminated rather than metabolized/absorbed by our body. however, i was not aware the relationship was 1:1 as you indicate above. i also thought it varied with the type of fiber.

thanks in advance. i am curious about these things.

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Dear Bizi,

i wonder do you have a source you could point me to that explains the bit about subtracting fiber grams from carb grams?



i am aware fiber absorbs some fat, which then gets eliminated rather than metabolized/absorbed by our body. however, i was not aware the relationship was 1:1 as you indicate above. i also thought it varied with the type of fiber.

thanks in advance. i am curious about these things.

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Here are three sites that explain net carbs.

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http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articl...net-carbs.html

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The words "net carbs" do not have a legal definition, and neither the FDA nor the American Diabetes Association uses the term. The idea behind net carbs is that food manufacturers subtract certain incompletely-digested carbohydrates--including sugar alcohols, fiber and glycerine--from the total carbohydrates (grams) because not all of the calories from those carbohydrates are completely absorbed by the body. For example, the term "net carbs" is often used on packages of foods that contain a large amount of dietary fiber or sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are used to sweeten a lot of sugar-free/no-sugar-added candies, gums, ice-cream, baked goods, and chocolate. However, subtracting all of the carbohydrate grams is inaccurate because a portion of them are absorbed.

http://www.fitwoman.com/support/fitbriefings/net-carbs/

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Since there is no official definition for ‘net carbohydrates' or its relatives, exactly what these terms mean may differ from product to product. But in general, they're defined as total carbohydrates minus the carbohydrates used in the product that don't affect blood sugar, such as fiber or sugar alcohols. Indeed, these terms were coined as a way to distinguish carbohydrate-containing foods that have less impact on blood sugars.

After we eat carbohydrates like starch or sugar, blood sugar (glucose) rises as insulin is released to move the glucose into the cell (a necessary process to produce energy to run the body, by the way). But when starch and/or sugar are replaced with fiber, sugar alcohols (e.g., sorbitol, xylitol, mannitol, maltitol, isomalt, erythritol), glycerine, or sugar substitutes, the product contains fewer carbohydrates that affect blood sugar. To get the net carbohydrate value, manufacturers subtract the grams of fiber, sugar alcohols and glycerine from the product's grams of total carbohydrates.

Example: Here's how a popular low carbohydrate candy bar figures its net carbohydrates:

25 g total carbohydrate – 11 g fiber – 3 g sugar alcohol – 9 g glycerine = 2 net carbs

Also this page:
http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm
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thanks Mari.

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...food manufacturers subtract certain incompletely-digested carbohydrates--including sugar alcohols, fiber and glycerine--from the total carbohydrates (grams) because not all of the calories from those carbohydrates are completely absorbed by the body. However, subtracting all of the carbohydrate grams is inaccurate because a portion of them are absorbed.
this tells me that in fact the relationship is not 1:1 and things are rather more complex. that is basically what i wanted to know. the net carb "equation" will reflect fewer calories than your body actually absorbs.
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Thank you Mari, I would not have been able to produce that. I just went with what Dr. Eades taught in his protein power book years ago. I totally forgot about the sugar alcohols.
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I skipped lunch today and thought I would die, due to my car being worked on. and I am not a breakfast person so I did not eat anything until 4;30 when I had 2 slices of cheddar cheese.
We were planning on going out to eat early so I thought I could wait.
Finally, We went to eat at the texas road house. (christmas gift cards)
I ate a few peanuts then a salad with ceasar dressing. Half a steak and veggies (broccoli, carrots etc) with cheese melted on top. I had 4 dirty martini's. (gin with olive juice and olives) I know, a bit excessive but really good and they were small drinks.
WE had a great meal, and I have left over steak!!!!
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I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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