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Last night when I went home I noticed a small box on my doorstep. My vitamins from iherb finally arrived. I took Betafentamine & methyl B12 with no problem at all before bed.
This morning I took my....Fishoil,Garlic,Multi-Vit.,B-complex,Methyl B12Betafentamine,C0Q10,and added my new 150mg dose of ALA.

I started to feel weird sensations in my head,the only thing that comes close is the Niacin flush feeling. I felt very nervous,alert,and uncomfortable.I was scratching and rubbing my face. One of my feet started to burn a bit as well for no reason. I also noticed darkish urine,as normally my urine is always flourescent green due to Bcomplex.

I am wondering if this is normal,has anyone had a similar reaction,or should I just not take them anymore?

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Question Who makes that ALA?

I looked it up at Linus Pauling Institute:
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In general, LA supplementation has been found to have few serious side effects. Intravenous administration of racemic LA at doses of 600 mg/day for 3 weeks (53) and oral racemic LA at doses as high as 1800 mg/day for 6 months (56) and 1200 mg/day for 2 years (55) did not result in serious adverse effects when used to treat diabetic peripheral neuropathy. Two minor anaphylactoid reactions and one severe anaphylactic reaction, including laryngospasm, were reported after intravenous LA administration (40). The most frequently reported side effects to oral LA supplementation are allergic reactions affecting the skin, including rashes, hives and itching. Gastrointestinal symptoms, including abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea have also been reported. Malodorous urine has also been noted by people taking 1200 mg/day of LA orally (60).
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/

At the dose you are taking, there should be little effect.
Allergic reactions are always possible
2) ALA can lower blood sugar readings...but typically in high doses.

What else is in the capsules? I myself would hesitate to continue with it.
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Default http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=2&at=0

Mrs. D, this is the link of the ALA I bought. Nothing sinister appears to be in there. Maybe 150mg is too high of a dose for me to start on, I don't know. I almost had to leave work and go home because of the weird feeling in my head. My head still feels weird now.
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Question I don't think it is a high dose...

I don't think it is the dose.

If you want answer, I'd stay off all supplements, and just take the ALA
alone one time. Keep some antihistamines handy if you get the itching/flushed feeling.

When a person uses alot of stuff, it might cloud the issue regarding side effects.
But it is also possible that you are allergic to it. In any event it is not a common occurance.

How are the twitching muscles doing? I haven't heard an update on that score.
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Default Thanks for asking Mrs D

I have been waiting, to really be able to update everyone,and know that it is certain. PN changes from moment to moment and I don't like to get over enthusiastic or confident.

But to be honest, I noticed an immediate abating of the twitching upon stopping the calcium,magnesium,& potassium supplements I was taking. I don't remember if I mentioned the potassium? That was my latest conquest at GNC. I was taking seperate of each,and morning and night doses.

In any event, upon your advice, I stopped that day,and within 2 days time the twitching abated by about 30-40%. Funny huh?

I still have some twitching, and it could be just about anywhere as it seems to travel around, but not nearly as horrible as it was. It may have abated even more. but it was sheer misery for those couple weeks as it was intense and constant.

I have been doing some serious stretching of my calf muscles,so I can regain flexibility and strenghth and stay off the calcium & magnesium. If I do go back,I will try the slow mag. In time.

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Lightbulb I see...

I think you were getting too much Calcium and did not balance well with the Mag. Perhaps there is alot of calicum already in your daily diet.

So just try magnesium alone. And a better product than you were using.
You don't have to take alot, to get an effect. A female should have 380mg or so a day. So two SlowMags would be about 1/2 of that, and the rest you may get from food if you are lucky. Magnesium helps with tension and anxiety, which you get sometimes. So it may help you here.

How high a dose are you taking for the B-complex? Some people get jittery or hyper on too much B-complex. Try taking it every other day (this works for me) and that might help.

A rapid response to only one dose of ALA suggests to me an allergic effect rather than the supplement effect. Supplements take time to work as a rule.
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