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Old 10-30-2012, 07:26 PM #1
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My son has tbi and constantly cusses and uses fowl language. This goes on all day and he wakes up at night hollowing and calling people that are not here. He has always been respectful to me until now and he cusses me out all the time now. He argues about everything you say and calls me a lie. He has to have help with most everything and cannot hardly carry on a normal conversation just talks like he is in the past. Is this normal, I have to listen to this all day and half the night I am at my wits end. Any suggestions?
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Ho Louann and welcome.

Disinhibition (including the foul language usage you describe) is not uncommon with TBI/PCS survivors. Before answering further it would be helpful to know when and the severity of his injury, and what treatment he is or has received. Sounds like a consult with a neurologist or clinical neuropsychologist familiar with TBI is in order if he has not yet seen one.
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Today: Neuropsychological examination five months post-accident indicated a return to normal cognitive functioning, and I returned to work approximately 6 months after the accident. I am grateful to be alive and am looking forward to enjoying the rest of my life.
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How old is your son?
What is his TBI from?
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I agree with lightrail. It would be helpful to know his injury and treatment history. There are also some Turrets like symptoms from a TBI.

Some anti-seizure meds may help him. He needs a thorough neurological follow up. His night struggles are an additional indicator of a problem.

How old is he?
What state do you live in?
Some states have services available.

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I agree with lightrail. It would be helpful to know his injury and treatment history. There are also some Turrets like symptoms from a TBI.

Some anti-seizure meds may help him. He needs a thorough neurological follow up. His night struggles are an additional indicator of a problem.

How old is he?
What state do you live in?
Some states have services available.

My best to you.
He is 50 years old we live in South Carolina. He only had a little physical therapy, occupational and speech. Speach started because he had a problem swallowing. He was in an auto accident on May 27, 2012 and was thrown out. He spent two and a half months in hospital. I am 71 years old and his only care giver. He did not have insurance and could not get him in a rehab place. I have gotten him on medicaid now but everywhere I turn for help has such a long waiting list. I would love to get him in a place that can help him more than what I can. He is on anti-seizure meds. All they told me was he has multiply contusions on the brain.
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Ho Louann and welcome.

Disinhibition (including the foul language usage you describe) is not uncommon with TBI/PCS survivors. Before answering further it would be helpful to know when and the severity of his injury, and what treatment he is or has received. Sounds like a consult with a neurologist or clinical neuropsychologist familiar with TBI is in order if he has not yet seen one.
He was thrown out of a truck in an accident they said cogitative skill were affected and there are multiply contusion on the brain. Of course there were a lot of other physical injuries, most have healed but his broken shoulder still hurts him a lot. The wreck was on May27, 2012
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He is 50 years old we live in South Carolina. He only had a little physical therapy, occupational and speech. Speach started because he had a problem swallowing. He was in an auto accident on May 27, 2012 and was thrown out. He spent two and a half months in hospital. I am 71 years old and his only care giver. He did not have insurance and could not get him in a rehab place. I have gotten him on medicaid now but everywhere I turn for help has such a long waiting list. I would love to get him in a place that can help him more than what I can. He is on anti-seizure meds. All they told me was he has multiply contusions on the brain.
Sounds like a pretty tough accident. Do you know what his GCS was upon admittance to the hospital?

All brain injuries are different and they all heal on their own schedule. That said, he is five months in and still having relatively significant issues with the disinhibition and hallucinations. It sounds like he needs more intensive therapy than he is getting, sorry to hear about the wait list. You may know this already but speech therapy is not only about resolving speech or swallowing issues, it helps resolve other cognitive problems also.

Here is a link to the Brain Injury Association of South Carolina, there may be some resources listed there that will be helpful. Best to you both.

http://www.biausa.org/SC/index.htm
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Thanks for the link I am working with Long Term Care Service and Hasci, but like I said everyone has a waiting list. LTCS did say they may be able to give me some respite relief. Even a couple hours would help. Friends cannot help because he gets angry and cusses everyone out. Nothing you try to do for him suits him he gets mad when he says something and you don't understand and ask him what, a lot of times when you do answer him he calls you a F-ing lie. He just needs more help than I can give. He talks constantly none stop , you can not do or concentrate on anything. If I go to the kitchen he hollows my name over and over. Hopefully They can get him some help before long. Thanks for letting me vent.
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louann,

Here is another link for you to check out.

http://ddsn.sc.gov/consumers/divisions/Pages/HASCI.aspx

Was your son argumentative before his injury? Sometimes, a behavior that pre-existed a brain injury becomes magnified by the injury.

The Dept of Mental Health may have some ideas. It sounds like he needs a lock-down mental health facility. At his and your age, he should not be your burden except you being a visitor and maybe legal guardian. By mental health standards, he is gravely disabled and unable to provide for his won care. That justifies a mental health commitment.

http://www.state.sc.us/dmh/cmhc.htm

Here is another link for Adult Protective Services. It may be more appropriate than Dept of Mental Health

https://dss.sc.gov/content/customers...aps/index.aspx

I know how hard it is to consider having him committed to an institution but you are too old to carry this burden. It will wear down on your health and then he will have nobody. If he can be placed in a care facility, at least you can have an influence on his care and visit him. I have watched my mother and my mother-in-law care for husbands with damaged minds (dementia). It is an exhausting job. It can take a decade or more off your life expectancy.

Has anybody started a Social Security Disability Income application for him? He would likely qualify for expedited approval. There are attorneys who specialize in getting SSDI applications approved. They are in the yellow pages under Attorneys/Social Security or Disability.

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Here is another link for you to check out.


Was your son argumentative before his injury? Sometimes, a behavior that pre-existed a brain injury becomes magnified by the injury.

The Dept of Mental Health may have some ideas. It sounds like he needs a lock-down mental health facility. At his and your age, he should not be your burden except you being a visitor and maybe legal guardian. By mental health standards, he is gravely disabled and unable to provide for his won care. That justifies a mental health commitment.

Here is another link for Adult Protective Services. It may be more appropriate than Dept of Mental Health

I know how hard it is to consider having him committed to an institution but you are too old to carry this burden. It will wear down on your health and then he will have nobody. If he can be placed in a care facility, at least you can have an influence on his care and visit him. I have watched my mother and my mother-in-law care for husbands with damaged minds (dementia). It is an exhausting job. It can take a decade or more off your life expectancy.

Has anybody started a Social Security Disability Income application for him? He would likely qualify for expedited approval. There are attorneys who specialize in getting SSDI applications approved. They are in the yellow pages under Attorneys/Social Security or Disability.

My best to you.
Thanks I have been to the BECKMAN MENTAL HEALTH CLINIC which is on the site you recommended and they said they deal mostly with mentally retarded people not head injuries. I have gotten him on medicaid and ssi.

He was not argumentative with me before the accident, I don't know how he was around his friends. He did have a alcohol and drug problem. It is so heart breaking when once in awhile you see a glimpse of the of the person he used to be. Or he sometimes says he ain't no good for nothing that his arms and legs don't work like they used to or his head feels like he is going crazy. I think he really needs another evaluation and to make sure the medicine he is on is right or the right dose.

I read where people on here say they can tell when they are getting angry and can walk away, but he changes from minute to minute. If don't hear what he says or when you don't know what he is asking he cusses. It just seems like you can not do anything right and it is not just me he gets angry with everyone. I am just wondering if this things are normal with tbi. Hopefully if I get a person from the long term care system to work with me they will be able to help me get the right help he needs.
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