Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Concussion Syndrome For traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post concussion syndrome (PCS).

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-03-2015, 07:30 AM #11
ProAgonist's Avatar
ProAgonist ProAgonist is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 111
10 yr Member
ProAgonist ProAgonist is offline
Member
ProAgonist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 111
10 yr Member
Default

Yes, waking up early is one of the most common symptoms of PCS.

Like Mark said, you should consider a supplement such as 5-HTP to improve your quality of sleep and your sleep cycle. This symptom might also resolve in a few months as you recover more and more from your PCS.

Have a good day,
-ProAgonist
__________________
PCS sufferer (18.2 years old male).

Concussions:


27 October 2014 - I accidentally smashed my head against a concrete wall while I was running (it was a slow run of about 3 meters / second).
No LOC.

6 November 2014 - In a sports field, A basketball ball fell on my head from about 5 meters height.


January 2, 2016 update: I am very optimistic, as I've made a significant recovery until now (2-Jan-2016). I am confident that my situation will keep improving.
ProAgonist is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-12-2015, 04:02 PM #12
SuperElectric SuperElectric is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 326
10 yr Member
SuperElectric SuperElectric is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 326
10 yr Member
Default

Hi, it's been a little while and I just wondered how folk are getting on with their early waking problem?

Mine seems to pretty darn stubborn so I'm going to try the 5HTP again before bed, probably a couple of hours before to give it time to work.
__________________
Concussion 28-02-2014 head butted a door edge.
.

Symptoms overcome: Nausea, head pressure, debilitating fatigue, jelly legs, raised pulse rate, night sweats, restlessness, depersonalisation, anxiety, neck ache, depression.
Symptoms left: Disturbed sleep, some residual tinnitus.
SuperElectric is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-12-2015, 05:37 PM #13
Lara Lara is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,026
15 yr Member
Lara Lara is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,026
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mouse1 View Post
Just wondering if anyone else has this? I had a 5 month period of insomnia with PCS, but since I recovered from this I wake up from sleeping at 6am daily no matter what I do the day before. I sleep very well throughout the night. I am 2 years since my injury and all scans were clear.
I'm sorry to track backwards in the discussion but...

mouse, may I ask about your 5 months with insomnia?

Did this go away gradually or did you find relief from anything in particular?

So many of us have sleep problems and as we all know, sleep is essential for recovery. In fact it's really important to help us function whether we have had a head injury or not. I of course realize everyone is different and sleep patterns do change for so many reasons.

Last edited by Lara; 02-12-2015 at 05:53 PM. Reason: corrections - I'm leaving out words for some reason.
Lara is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 11:59 AM #14
Chris2828 Chris2828 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 178
10 yr Member
Chris2828 Chris2828 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 178
10 yr Member
Default

Same here. I always wake up at the same time (5 am). After that it's sometimes a real struggle to fall asleep again. Didn't have that issue before my concussions.
Chris2828 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 12:56 PM #15
Mark in Idaho Mark in Idaho is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere near here
Posts: 11,427
15 yr Member
Mark in Idaho Mark in Idaho is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere near here
Posts: 11,427
15 yr Member
Default

Have you guys who wake up at 5 am or so tried eating a snack of complex carbs or protein before bed ? Your brains may be needing energy. The energy from food only lasts 7 to 8 hours, even less for some. Then, the liver needs to release ketones to feed the brain. If the ketones are not enough, the brain becomes energy deficient and may wake up. This is even more problematic if your body is not good at using fat for energy.
__________________
Mark in Idaho

"Be still and know that I am God" Psalm 46:10
Mark in Idaho is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 02:01 PM #16
Chris2828 Chris2828 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 178
10 yr Member
Chris2828 Chris2828 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 178
10 yr Member
Default

I will give it a try. However i didn't have that problems before. Do you mean the brain needs more energy because of the injury?
Chris2828 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 03:35 PM #17
SuperElectric SuperElectric is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 326
10 yr Member
SuperElectric SuperElectric is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 326
10 yr Member
Default

Same here Chris2828, 5 am is a familiar time, before I would just turn over and fall asleep if I woke (which was rarely ever) but now it's sooo hard to get off again. I notice that when I wake within seconds I'm alert and not sleepy any more but if I do eventually fall asleep again, usually after eating some banana or yoghurt, when I wake I'm really sleepy and relaxed, strange.
__________________
Concussion 28-02-2014 head butted a door edge.
.

Symptoms overcome: Nausea, head pressure, debilitating fatigue, jelly legs, raised pulse rate, night sweats, restlessness, depersonalisation, anxiety, neck ache, depression.
Symptoms left: Disturbed sleep, some residual tinnitus.
SuperElectric is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 07:32 PM #18
Mark in Idaho Mark in Idaho is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere near here
Posts: 11,427
15 yr Member
Mark in Idaho Mark in Idaho is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere near here
Posts: 11,427
15 yr Member
Default

As I was reading about blood sugar levels and sleep, it was suggested that those who eat smaller meals more often during the day tend to have more problems with this.

Brain injuries can change the way or the efficiency of how the brain cells metabolization of sugar. This could explain it. Some have tried MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) oil. The brain easily metabolizes MCT's. Coconut oil has good MCT concentrations.
__________________
Mark in Idaho

"Be still and know that I am God" Psalm 46:10
Mark in Idaho is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Lara (02-13-2015)
Old 02-14-2015, 01:34 PM #19
mouse1's Avatar
mouse1 mouse1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 448
10 yr Member
mouse1 mouse1 is offline
Member
mouse1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 448
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lara View Post
I'm sorry to track backwards in the discussion but...

mouse, may I ask about your 5 months with insomnia?

Did this go away gradually or did you find relief from anything in particular?

So many of us have sleep problems and as we all know, sleep is essential for recovery. In fact it's really important to help us function whether we have had a head injury or not. I of course realize everyone is different and sleep patterns do change for so many reasons.
Lara,

During these five months I would wake up at 1 or 2am and remain awake throughout the night. The breakthrough for me was Cymbalta, it cured this instantly.

I am only on 30mg of Cymbalta, which I take in the morning. I might switch this round to night now as I still wake at 5 or 6am at the minute.
__________________
PCS following head injury November 2012. Experienced dizzyness, light and noise sensitivity, hypercusis, fatigue, insomnia, migraines, facial pain, problems concentrating, irritability, sensory overload, exercise intolerance.

Symptoms mostly resolved, working full time and I am now mostly better. I wake 6am daily since my injury. Was experiencing daily Neuralgia which was controlled with Cymbalta 30mg, Lyrica 200mg daily. Now only on 30mg Cymbalta.
mouse1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Lara (02-14-2015)
Old 02-15-2015, 03:21 PM #20
Bud Bud is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 818
10 yr Member
Bud Bud is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 818
10 yr Member
Default

5 a.m. For me also on good days.

Bud
Bud is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Problems waking up... katie71083 Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Concussion Syndrome 6 12-20-2011 05:17 PM
Pain Waking You Up? tkrik Multiple Sclerosis 22 12-13-2011 12:00 PM
Waking With a Bad H/A sue984 Headache 10 12-30-2010 09:05 AM
Waking up tiredmomma Parents with Bipolar Children 10 10-20-2009 04:19 AM
Waking up? braingonebad Multiple Sclerosis 8 09-04-2008 04:37 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.