Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)

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Old 01-21-2010, 02:36 AM #11
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Lynn, you had some great thoughts. We never know what someone else is going through, even our best friends. It sounds like this woman is a quiet type to start with, and not prone to talk about her problems. Maybe that is a way to begin. Try to reach out to her and see if she needs an ear.

You could both find some mutual strength by talking about both of your lives. If she really is a quiet one, you can consider it a project to draw her out. The effort might be a needed therapy for you, as well.

Another thing to consider, KS, is that your friend might not be sure how to relate to you. I am extremely uncomfortable when I visit a terminal patient in hospital. What do I say past “I am sorry” and my offers to help? Have there been recent changes in your condition, where she does not know what to say? In the past, she might have been able to offer hope where now she just senses hopelessness.

I hope you reconnect.
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Lynn said it best. You don't know what other people are going through at times. There might be more going on for her then just her husband's cold.

My feeling of friends is that they can't always be there for everything you go through but they are there when they are needed the most. When Bill was in the hospital in Denver, all of my friends came up there and stayed for 4 days with us until we had to take him off of life support. I don't think Susan and I were ever alone. They had to come 150 miles to be with us too.

The hardest part for me is that friends call me on the phone and I don't answer it nor return their calls. Depression keeps me from talking to people. I am going through that now, I think due to the accident in December and my PT. Luckily, they don't get mad. They know my situation.

We are living in a time where everyone seems to be going through something that is more then they can take. Financially, physically, personally. Friends call me with their problems all of the time. I must be a good listener. I usually don't get a word in edgewise but that's ok. They thought to call me in their time of need. It helps me forget what I'm going through. I also laugh a lot too, so by the end of the conversation, we usually have some good laughs.

Some people aren't going to stick with a person through the worst also. There are people that can't deal with sickness and unhappiness. Usually they are self absorbed.

Give your friend time, she will come around and if she is going through something she may eventually talk to you.

I think people can learn who their real friends are in the end. When all is said and done, they are still there whether you talk everyday or not.

Lynn, you are right. That line is stupid. Wheather you love someone or not, we make mistakes and you do have to say you're sorry.

KS, just keep smilin and remember things do get better and you have support here.

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Lynn said it best. You don't know what other people are going through at times. There might be more going on for her then just her husband's cold.

My feeling of friends is that they can't always be there for everything you go through but they are there when they are needed the most. When Bill was in the hospital in Denver, all of my friends came up there and stayed for 4 days with us until we had to take him off of life support. I don't think Susan and I were ever alone. They had to come 150 miles to be with us too.

The hardest part for me is that friends call me on the phone and I don't answer it nor return their calls. Depression keeps me from talking to people. I am going through that now, I think due to the accident in December and my PT. Luckily, they don't get mad. They know my situation.

We are living in a time where everyone seems to be going through something that is more then they can take. Financially, physically, personally. Friends call me with their problems all of the time. I must be a good listener. I usually don't get a word in edgewise but that's ok. They thought to call me in their time of need. It helps me forget what I'm going through. I also laugh a lot too, so by the end of the conversation, we usually have some good laughs.

Some people aren't going to stick with a person through the worst also. There are people that can't deal with sickness and unhappiness. Usually they are self absorbed.

Give your friend time, she will come around and if she is going through something she may eventually talk to you.

I think people can learn who their real friends are in the end. When all is said and done, they are still there whether you talk everyday or not.

Lynn, you are right. That line is stupid. Wheather you love someone or not, we make mistakes and you do have to say you're sorry.

KS, just keep smilin and remember things do get better and you have support here.

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Hello everyone...

So many nice responses.. very helpful and with each one I caught myself sitting back in my chair thinking..humm thats a great thought... possible???? Well, Bassman let me say as much as everyone has great thoughts you hit the nail on the head...she is "the" quiet type....very regimented person..not a bad thing but she admits that she is her own worst enemy with prioritys and very absorbed by her work.. still nothing wrong with that... Lynn.. you also hit it by saying..bring her treats, unexpectedly..I love doing that stuff all of my friends...and I have surprised her...she is from Pa.. so is my husband..when ever we travel to my in-laws I always bring her back her favorite..shoo-fly pie...Well.. I did write a note...sent it too... nicely..she wrote write back in saying she feels totally guilty for her distance due to work obligations and ridged home schedule..which she does to herself...so we made a pact ..she asked if could help her ease her stress, find a happy medium... by letting go of the less important stuff..like chasing dust bunnies around in turn we could visit and have more time together at the drop of a hat......

oh and btw.. my rule is..and I tell her... it is not just about me... RSD is something I have.. nasty, yes..but it is not all I am about..It is just not about me..it can not be ever....I am just so thankful I was not getting kicked to curb, she and I talked about long ago so we both have had that happen..... aweful..we need our peeps... oh gosh we do..!!!

Oh lynn the soup idea..love it but she makes much better soup than I...so I'll stick with the pie.... but thank you...good idea..

25yrs. at my job gone..yes..very difficult time but I am so happy to turn to you all here......

Thanks so much everyone...
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RSD definitely leads to some awkard social moments, to put it mildly.

Don't let this friend issue get away from you, either. RSD is isolating enough.

People just don't get it. I wouldn't have understood this, had it not happened to me.

One of the things I've begun to do in order to dim the isolation, is to start using Facebook. Even if it ends up being new RSD friends, I have learned how much worse off I am when I isolate.

Change is hard, especially when it's not our idea.
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RSD definitely leads to some awkard social moments, to put it mildly.

Don't let this friend issue get away from you, either. RSD is isolating enough.

People just don't get it. I wouldn't have understood this, had it not happened to me.

One of the things I've begun to do in order to dim the isolation, is to start using Facebook. Even if it ends up being new RSD friends, I have learned how much worse off I am when I isolate.

Change is hard, especially when it's not our idea.
I also think I am a bit less patient with people when it comes to my never ending RSD pain and recently having to leave my job because of it... 25 yrs!! UGH! ...even tho their routines remain the same..I am the one who feels so needy.. Not fair to them..not their fault.. life has not changed in their eyes.. but my/our lives are slowly rolling down hill...so how do we find that happy medium..as it is hard for our family and friends to understand and walk in our shoes.. but our pain makes us desperate and that heavy heart feeling stinks!!!! Yes, I do have a wonderful councelor..just the other day, I told her.. she has grown on me as I fought the "need" of having her at first....she claims I am amazing... now that makes me giggle..like I have all of the answers... Oh no.. I think NOT!!!!!.

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Aw... well, I can't fix her, but I'd happily make you a Facebook friend.

RSD takes my patience into the negatives sometimes.

I feel just as needy, so I do understand what your saying.

Losing the ability to work is not for the faint of heart.
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Hello everyone.. I have to toss this out there and please..all ...help me..but today I am feeling pretty sad as my dear bestest girlfriend..who has been so good to me the past 3 years...is so enthralled with her work (I understand that part...) and homelife with two dogs and husband obligations lately.. (sounds quiet compared to us having kids and the schedule xtra's, right??)..... Iam screaming..help..plz.. me... I am unraveling here..As some of you know, I just stepped away from my work of 25yrs. due to my RSD in my legs and no longer walk well enough to be there..not mention the spread I now have going on...Just today I mentioned to her it's not her work but plz fit me into some solo time and how I have called the last few weeks...invited her to lunch and seeked her out a bunch lately cuz I need my friend to possibly cry with me... but all I got so far was her work has been incredibly busy which she is so very sorry for and that her husband had a cold over her 3 day's off...so she couldn't visit with me... I have told her how devestated I am the longer I have been home (since 12/3/09) and how until one has to walk at 47 due to this reason..it's real pain that others don't know... so far no reply...

Okay everyone..guide me here.. I don't want not do I believe in pitty but this is the one person besides my husband and children that I have connected with almost everyday for 3 years...and she always said..how are you feeling?? I thinks she cares but due to her quiet life.. she over plays her demands... and I need her..

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I know you posted this a long time ago, but I can relate. I just got the RSD diagnosis in June of 2009. i was working (not easily) ,and I was still trying to pretend I could do stuff. Then I had to stop since driving home was becoming dangerous since my foot hurt so much. As to my friends, it is like I became a leper overnight. I have two friends that i talk to regularly. Some friends say they will come over as soon as I give them a time. So,I do, and for some reason, they don't come over. They call with an excuse. At first, I cried about the loss of friends (never mind loss of everything else).....still do sometimes. But I think what people cannot see, they cannot understand. I don't really want to take off my sock and show my ugly foot. I think trying to
take care of my new needs and figure out my new life. It isn't easy and i think it takes a long time. There are lots of people in same boat here. Maybe if you and she could do something together...like a movie? Or you would know better what might work. Just a thought. Good luck.
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I totally understand that it is hard to have a disconnect with a person that you were/are close with- it can be maddening. When I first had my SCS put in and had subsequent revisions and then issues with blood clots, it was really hard. The first time I was in the hospital, all kinds of people were there. And then each time after that less and less people came to see me. I have always tried to understand that hospitals are not something that people are used to dealing with when they are 19. But then I realized that hospitals and sickness are not something that anyone is used to dealing with. And even if a person has had experience with illness, it can be difficult to deal with depending on your relationship with the person who is sick. The dynamics can all change around.

My motto about people is that you never know what someone else is dealing with. If someone is rude to me or mean to me, I try to imagine what it is that has made them lash out that way. Maybe the person at the grocery store is fighting with her spouse, or the rude lady at the gas station who stole my pump while it was raining and then flipped me off (today!) just got bad news from a doctor. It's hard to do at first, but in the long run I am happier when I try to empathize with people and not take their behavior too personally.

I know it can be hard to see, but for your friend, this is her life and these things are real problems- that are important- to her. Sometimes it can cause problems, but at the end of the day, I am happy that my friends cannot exactly relate to what I am going through. I am glad that the dog peeing on the rug is a big problem for them. I don't want them to feel pain and suffering and loss. Not that you do! Not saying that!

I think that it is important for you to put yourself in her shoes, just as much as you want her to step into your shoes. Judging her life won't solve much, and it will just make you bitter. Write her a letter, but don't send it, to get past some of the anger that you are feeling. And I would also look in to getting a therapist. I had a lot of problems with my ex when I relied on only him as my support system after a trauma in my life- sometimes it can cause resentment when a person feels (whether rightly or wrongly!) that you are relying on them too much. This is a big life change that you are going through, and getting more support can never be a bad thing!

Sometimes when people don't know what to do they step away from a situation and don't try at all for fear of failing. Maybe try to offer her something concrete to do, or take the first step yourself. Bring over some chicken soup to her house for her husband! This can help her to see that you take her and her life seriously, and then it will help her to take your life and problems seriously.

I do have to kind of disagree with something that Bobber said though- I don't think that love is unconditional. Maybe unconditional as far as illnesses and all, but I think that people love us because of the way that we act, and our personalities. And if that starts to change, then love can change. If I am hurting, I really try to make an effort not to take it out on my boyfriend. The man who wrote the movie "Love Story" died the other day, and they quoted the famous line from it- "love means never having to say that you're sorry." And I think that is the stupidest line ever! Love is the exact opposite of that! Love means respecting someone enough TO say that you are sorry, that you screwed up. Love means abandoning pride and working on things together.

Ok, that last part was totally a rant, but not totally off of the subject


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Hi Lynn,
Just read your response about the friendship problem when diagnosed with RSD. Your whole response was great but I have to tell you something. I, too, hated that movie Love Story. And that line, "love means never having to say you're sorry" is a crock. It wasn't a rant........it was great. lol
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Hi Lynn,
Just read your response about the friendship problem when diagnosed with RSD. Your whole response was great but I have to tell you something. I, too, hated that movie Love Story. And that line, "love means never having to say you're sorry" is a crock. It wasn't a rant........it was great. lol
read all of your responses..I was afraid I was being overly sensitive but I see you all understand and can relate..I told this friend.. (she is my best friend)..as I wrote to her saying..I feel like I am being punished for running over someones pet or something... my whole life has changed and affected.. my health.. my fiances.... my daily routine.. my livelyhood and friends there as well as my need to be needed, my need to be wanted and my need to be valued as well as my niche'. She did respond in saying she knows this has been hard for me and this has not been easy for her either and that she feels very guilty as she has been busy at work... I offered up the movie idea, lunch what ever... but her home life is busy too..she is kinda married to her work.. so I should stop wineing as everyone has their life and just because mine came to a skretching halt..her's nor anyone else's here has not...

Face book huh?? I haven't the faintest in getting started there....


Hugz to you all here... KS
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