Dear Jen

the morning headache+nausea suggests migraine to me... it hurts more if you move right?

stress and lack of sleep can easily increase migraine frequency.

rebound headache can also occur following chronic use of pain killers, but would not explain the nausea.

sleep deprivation can also cause 'simple' headaches, period. again, would not explain the nausea but maybe that is something else.

sleep deprivation can certainly escalate your overall pain levels.

i hope that the 6 hours sleep you got is an indication that you are back on the road to sleeping... sleep will definitely help you all around. sleep heals.

hang in there

~ waves ~

Hi Jen

I have been gone. So I just caught up.

I can give you some news about the hose. You would feel a lot better if you had the hose. I would definately call the doctor and explain just like you
did to us. That your feet and I'm guessing legs say to maybe the knees
or lower are very swollen. To the point you can't get on shoes.
Meaning if you went out to the store, say and bought a new pair.
You would have to buy a pair that is say 2 sizes bigger than normal.

(This is what happened to me.) I thought it was normal. Because I needed
to go up in size for say 6 months. And back down, so I had the sizes.

Anyway, I had a physical therapist that was dealing with things with
my hands, or legs at the time. I'm sorry that I can't remember exactly
See I am and was a regular at the time.

But I asked my therapist, about the pain in my feet and legs. She noticed
the swelling. And asked if she could call in one of the other therapist.
Who dealt with this issue. So this one told me to get some relief I needed
Support hose. So they asked my doctor for a order.

GOt one and I got relief. And honestly could walk again without the pain
all the time. And my hose were a godsend.

To say the best thing that happened. They were.

The other thing my doctor asked them to tell me. Was to make sure I wasn't eating salt. She felt it might be my problem.

So I definately would suggest going to the primary.
Ask to go to a physical therapist to be fitted for the support hose.
Because if you just buy some, you usually buy the wrong size.

I tried that when I wanted a second pair. I wasted more money
than just asking how much they were. It turned out I could buy
a second set from them cheaper.

And I did, because I had problems washing them. And needed two
pairs.

I hope this helped.

Please Call tomorrow.

I see my migraine doctor tomorrow.

Donna

Hi Dmom,

Thanks so much for your response and advice. I really appreciate you all here. YOu have been so much help.

I took a bath last night in epsom salt, my dad went out and bought me some cause I can hardly even get out of bed right now I feel so sick. But of course it didn't work right awway but there was a definite change in how there was pain. It wasn't as intense...i just noticed I had a harder time standing up after the bath, meaning getting up to take a shower, usually I can get right up but this time I couldn't as fast. maybe just getting old....haha

Anyways, i have been thinking about the support hose. I am a pretty big person, do you think they even have them that big? I do see my physical therapist tomorrow for our workout in the pool. I think it is actually our last one and am going to talk to her to about all this.

I had carpel tunnel surgery last year and I feel like I am getting that back. I know am not getting it back cause of the difference in how it can come and go with the pain and things from my back. I noticed that last night my hands and wrists were really swollen again and my stomach was really swollen again, and I only had a piece of bread yesterday. I know not good for me, but I am not feeling well and I don't want to be sitting at the thrown so to speak for hours because I ate.

I went to sleep around 10:30 last night and woke at 1:15 this morning feeling so sick. I felt like I was burning up and I do have a small fever, but nothing big. It's nice to actually feel the need to cover up instead of no covers at all. But am sick of feeling sick at work all the time.

One thing I do do that's right is no salt, at least I don't add any and I try my hardest not to eat things with salt. I really don't like the taste of it and that is something that makes my fingers blow up, but just my fingers. so I know this is something different.

I probably will call Monday to see if can get in to see my regular doc. sometime this week. He said to call if things weren't imporving so i can call at least and see what he or his nurse suggests.

One last thing and then i think or know I was writting too much, I am on tylenol with codeine for pain for my back and also generic soma. I don't take as much as what I can each day, but wondering and heard that you can get tylenol poisoning, or is that only if you overdose on it? This is my 4th bottle of 20 pills in 2 months I believe so I think that i am ok when it comes to not taking too much, but I don't know.

I am also wondering if the pills I take from over the counter at night are causing all the pain, but then had that before i started the pills, I don't know, am just reaching here.

Thanks again for listening, hugs,
Jen

regular use of acetaminophen (tylenol) in large doses, typically 3g/day (10 x 300mg pills/day) can cause toxicity. of course, different individuals respond differently.

since you have/had several symptoms i really would like for you to see your doc. to make sure you're ok with the tylenol they need to do a liver panel... but your symptoms taken together may suggest something completely different to a doctor, and if so maybe they can help. can you just go to your GP monday, as a walk-in? make sure you mention that you weren't feeling like eating for a while - and advise if that is still the case. it is clinically relevant.

what OTC pills are you taking at night?



~ waves ~

waves,

I really appreciate your concern. I actually was looking into that tylenol thing because i have been on tylenol 3s for over a month at least probably longer. I can take them every 4 hours as needed, and I went through a bottle of 20 in 5 days the last time, this time I am not hardly taking any because i feel like crap, but yet am in so much pain....ya know? I was thinking about just going into the walk-in today but i can barely get out of bed.

I am going to call tomorrow probably and ask. i am taking what is called Rest Simply- Diphenhydramine HCL 25 mg, nighttime sleep aid---generic form of benedryl. I am almost wondering if I am having a pretty severe reaction to it. I take 2 a night for the last 3 nights. I am not taking them tonight though and see if that helps.

I tried to eat this morning. I managed a piece of toast even though it made me feel so sick and a glass of milk and that too made me sick, but I have a feeling that's all am going to get in me today.

The fever kept going up and up all night and then I fell back asleep this morning about 6 and woke up at 8 and it was down a degree so that is good.

I can't even think about food or even drinking something like a glass of water, i know I should be drinking water and I have some gaterade here, i just can't drink it. I tried and makes me so much more sick to my stomach. I don't know what is going on, but have a feeling it has something to do with the stuff I take at night. I don't know though I am not a doc. and I really don't want to call the clinic today. i feel like I am there all the time as it is with other things. I was there last week twice I think once for a reg. doc. appointment and the other to see my pdoc, but then again I don't remember about the pdoc.

So am just going to lay low today and keep close to home. I really don't know I don't know what it could be or maybe am just getting the flu---who really knows??? I just know am sick and tired of all this and want to feel a good day, just once.

I try and remain positive about this, and then something else makes me feel worse. Sometimes I wonder if I am wondering if I am just going crazy and that am sick because am sick in the head too.

Thanks again for being so nice to me everyone and helping me get through this
hugs,
jen

Dear Jen

oh wow i thought you were going to wait to take the Rest Simply until after the Nardil (clearance takes a bit, once stopped).. anyway... i guess you are ok... WHEW! i am glad you are ok, and are getting more sleep.

By itself 4 pills a day (20/5) of Tylenol 3 (those pills should be 300mg each + 30mg codeine) are well below typical toxic range. since there are other meds in the picture it is hard to say though... the liver might be overworked from other things as well.

yes it could be flu and under ordinary circumstances i wouldn't suggest to run to the doctor.

but yours aren't ordinary circumstances. there are many symptoms, some serious, and you are taking many different types of medications. Nausea, FEVER, lack of appetite, can happen with the flu but they could also indicate serious conditions. Given the complexity of the picture, i really think it is safest for you to see a doctor.

It might help to write on a piece of paper the symptoms you have, starting with the headache and nausea, lack of appetite, swelling, pain levels and ALL meds and the amount you take - whether prescribed or not.

I really hope you will be able to get in to the doc tomorrow. someone else should take you - i hope maybe your dad can help.

nite nite. i hope you will start feeling much better soon!

~ waves ~

really don't know what am going to do about this whole thing. am just a baby anyways, just complaining about nothing important.

i did eat a little today and drank a little today, but well didn't stay very long. oh well, kinda how it goes lately.

am supposed to have physical therapy in the pool tomorrow but don't know if going to go especially if feel this week or maybe it be good for me to go, i can't make a simple decision about anything right now.

too much going on in my head and my body to even know anymore. and right now i don't care. am just complaining and if i did go to the doc. am sure they just say nothing wrong so that would be a waste of my insurances money. i waste enough as it is.

thought things were starting to get better this afternoon, now well same ol' same ol', and watched the movie "Precious" which i didn't get to finish cause the dvd must be scratched or something cause wouldn't finish, it's from the library and over 400 people have seen it before me. but not a good movie to watch for me and it was way too triggering. i only saw the bad stuff, and then the movie quit, so now it is playing over and over in my mind. oh well.

tc everyone,
jen

Jen
The physical therapist can help you with the swollen legs and hands now.

I would like to see you try to go. Please also do call the doctor.
Do not think its nothing. I think you need to have the doctor tell you
that.

Donna

yes actually i do think it's nothing, i think am just complaining and would take up the doc. time.

I really don't or I dont' know. I can't make a decision about things right now. I don't even know if I should take my meds tonight for fear of becoming sick during the night. I am not taking that night time sleepy thing cause i don't know if that is causing it so that won't be in the mix, but i have some others to take, and the idea of swallowing pills right now doesn't sound very appealing to me or my stomach.

I know am not thinking right, but it's how am thinking. Too much in my head to comprehend what i need to do for me. I don't know about PT tomorrow, i haven't been able to take a pain pill all day today so maybe the pool might help. I really need some T3s and a soma so my back can stop spasming, but putting pills down my throat right now does not appeal to me. I dont want to make anyone mad or waste anyones time if I can't do the exercises in there.

I can't stop shaking, well my hands anyways and I don't know if I can stand this any longer. Too many symptoms so it has to be all made up right? I mean does anyone have this much wrong with them at one time? Then go into the doc. and they say oh yeah that is wrong and this is wrong, oh yeah you are right you are not feeling well...no I don't think so, they will tell me there is nothing wrong with me, do the blood work like usual and send me on my way...why do that? there is no point. They usually don't find anything wrong anyways, so what makes this time different? I can be my own doctor this time and just stay home and be sick or whatever it is I am.

I really hate myself right now, for especially dragging everyone of you into this world of mine that doesn't exist. And if I am sick, oh well. There isn't anything anyone can do for me, they have told me for the past 2 weeks they won't help me with my sleep and then if something happens because i take something for sleep they all of a sudden want to help...how f***** up is that? So not worth going in there and the humiliation of being there all the time.

Doesn't that make sense to anyone beside me? Anyways, I don't feel real right now, nothing feels real. Am just like floating and not able to ground myself here. So i have to go now, nothing is real right now, and i don't feel real. I don't even know what am saying or why am saying this. just don't worry cause things will be fine later. i eventually come back to earth after feeling like am floating for a while.

Thanks everyone and sorry for wasteing everyone's time and energy on this subject. I dont' know if you can just leave this alone or errase the whole topic or what, but not worth anymore time being spent on it.

please keep posting.
you are not talking up our time.
You are a worthy woman and deserve to have the best care possible.
you need a team that will work with you.
i hope that you have a therapist to help you deal with these issues.
I am sorry that you are not keeping any food down or water, afraid to take food in.
have you had eating issues before?
bizi